any one knows who upgrades ER starters?

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El Mamito USMC

Zorros Racing Team..
Staff member
Apr 11, 2012
#1
ok guys im looking who can upgrade the internals of my oem starter... for some reason the 24V kit keeps burning the starter and solenoid.(im thinking it might be a short some where?

so I want to modify it to make it stronger...

any takers?
 

OTMTRX

Active Member
Apr 9, 2012
#2
It keeps burning up because your putting 24v thru it instead of the 12v it's designed for.. You were warned..

Go back to 12v and add a kicker for back-up.
 

El Mamito USMC

Zorros Racing Team..
Staff member
Apr 11, 2012
#3
It keeps burning up because your putting 24v thru it instead of the 12v it's designed for.. You were warned..

Go back to 12v and add a kicker for back-up.
thats what im doing... but still . if you can "beef up" any weak parts. why not do it...
 

OTMTRX

Active Member
Apr 9, 2012
#4
The starting system isn't that weak.. It's just not designed for twice the voltage and twice the current. The starter clutch and reduction gear are the "weakest" probably.. But again the 24v kit added stress to those also.. That's why a lot of us advised against it. If you want to upgrade, get a new starter & solenoid, get reduction gear welded, fit new starter clutch and add a kicker. The stock parts work / last pretty well for what they were designed for.. Add kicker for back up.
 

El Mamito USMC

Zorros Racing Team..
Staff member
Apr 11, 2012
#5
The starting system isn't that weak.. It's just not designed for twice the voltage and twice the current. The starter clutch and reduction gear are the "weakest" probably.. But again the 24v kit added stress to those also.. That's why a lot of us advised against it. If you want to upgrade, get a new starter & solenoid, get reduction gear welded, fit new starter clutch and add a kicker. The stock parts work / last pretty well for what they were designed for.. Add kicker for back up.
you know what my raceprep guy told me.. was to get a smaller battery and try. like a 4-5V one combined with my 12V should help and not burn the starter.... ill keep you guys posted on the results of that..
 

Vasilios

Active Member
Aug 14, 2013
#6
Go back to your 12 volt system and run a new lithium battery, tons of cranking amps a quarter of the weight and there is virtually no battery fade during extended cranking not that you should have an issue with cranking if the valves and everything are setup correctly.
 

bvet4dog

mmhmm bacon!
Apr 10, 2012
#8
How's it going... I take it you haven't found a kicker kit yet? Want me to help you find one? Think one could be found on 450cc sports quad connection facebook group that baileygunns and I are admins of.

I'm still using the gel battery from bikemaster. It sits out in the cold garage all winter still hooked up to the bike. I start it maybe twice a month and let it run for 5 mins. That's it.

I talked about the 12v set up with my grandpa who is a master electrician. He says the starter is not designed for that, therefore you get what you're experiencing. Which makes sense. I'm going to do similar route as you, install a kick start for back up. When that happens... no idea lol. I pray that my bike keep treating me good. This year no crashes and no issues with the bike... knock on wood lol. Well other than the lame puncture problem on brand new sunf tires.

Let me know if you'd like me to make a post for you on that 450cc sport quad connection facebook group.
 
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Burke

Troll Slayer
Lifetime Member
Apr 18, 2012
#10
I talked about the 12v set up with my grandpa who is a master electrician. He says the starter is not designed for that, therefore you get what you're experiencing. Which makes sense.
Kind of like OTMTRX was saying... he's an electrical engineer, so I for one tend to believe him since I'm basically retarded when it comes to electrical stuff.